So, we started watching this set of videos from 23rd Publications, a video series by Kathleen Chesto (btw, if you ever hear her name brought up at a parish, you might be at a liberal parish). I took notes, because I was so incredulous at the shit they were saying, not all of it is bad, which makes the lies even more insidious. More after the jump.
The first video is on baptism. These are disjointed quotes, as close as I can remember them, so I will try to clarify where I can.
-Sacraments - God loved us first and we respond.
-symbols aren't made, they're born. Jesus invested Jewish symbols with new meaning.
-sacraments deepen our friendship with God, they are sources of grace
-having a baby awakens in us the need for community.
-Baptism is not just being free from sin.
-baptism is claiming a solidarity with Christ.
-When the church was persecuted and went underground, you had to have a sponsor that could vouch for your sincerity and that you weren't a Roman spy. When you decided you were ready and the community agreed, you went thru the catechumenate.
-Liturgy comes before theology. Ritual first. Practice becomes tradition, tradition becomes theology when we try to understand it. We ritualize, then we theologize.
-Those who theologize often infuse meaning that the original participants didn't mean or never intended.
-Family baptism didn't start until the 4th century. There were some that thought if you weren't baptized you weren't saved, though the church thought differently.
-practice dictating theology. Baptism became about forgiveness of sin.
-to figure out the theology of baptizing infants, St. Augustine proposed the idea that we are all born with sin (borrowing from St. Cyprian). He didn't know enough of the Church's history to know that we hadn't always baptized infants. St. Augustine taught babies without baptism go to hell. So then developed the idea of limbo.
-For the next 1500 years, that's what the Church taught. This idea persisted until Vatican II.
-some used to believe that outside the church there is no salvation, but that isn't true.
-Vatican II changed all the wrong theology.
-Baptism is a model to raise your child in the faith - a ritual only.
Okay, so some of the comments that were said:
-"I never believed in original sin or limbo anyway, so it's a relief to find out I don't have to."
-"There isn't this urgency to baptize a baby."
-"So why doesn't the church correct us baptizing infants? Why does the practice continue?"
-"It's a relief to know that Augustine made up original sin."
-"There's traditions that go back to human inventions, that then they infuse a spiritual meaning to it. Like at the offertory when the priest mixes the water and wine: they used to do that because wine used to be really thick, and water was a way of diluting it. So then after awhile, they infused a spiritual meaning to it, but it's just a human invention." (guess who said that one)
It's so nice to know I won't have to put up with this much longer. Yup, you read that right. I turned in my resignation this week. Now, it's not like I'm quitting today. I'm staying until they can find someone suitable (but no later than December 1). But, I feel so relieved and happy and peaceful. Partly because I won't have to deal with this bullshit anymore.